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The S-Plan

18 06 06 + 17 - 22

-------- Difficult to Buy a Car With It

MiataMy vehicle, a Mazda Miata 1996 M-Edition, is just 10 years old this week. It still runs, but at some point maintenance costs may start to become a worry. I am considering exchanging it for a newer model of the same car, or another type of car.

Ford / Mazda offer an incentive plan for partner companies, the S-Plans. Employees of Bose, Raytheon, Fidelity, among others, can get the S-Plan price (very close to invoice) without negotiation on the vehicles from participating Ford or Mazda dealers. My wife happens to work at a company that offers the S-Plan to their employees. Different car manufacturing companies may have other similar plans, but essentially the car manufacturer gives some incentives (kickbacks) to the dealer for participating on the S-Plan sale.

At this point buying close to retail price is the fartest from realistic option: The car still has some life on it, and I am in no hurry to part with it.

Recognizing that only participating dealers offer it I ask the question within a few minutes of meeting the salesperson on the dealer. This is what has happened recently at two dealers:

  • Wellesley Mazda – I ask if they are able to find the car I want, I even bring them the printout from the dealer website that has it, but it is quite far from home. Calling the original dealer by phone gets a vague answer about the car availability, and I want a close dealer to find out for me, and potentially sell me the car. I ask them if they offer the S-Plan, and they answer that they do. After a couple of hours waiting for appraisal of the trade in vehicle, and other discussions, we get to numbers. The 'S-Plan' offered is about $400 higher than the one published by Ford/Mazda. Then they slap a $200 salesperson fee on top of it (in lieu of standard commissions). Suddenly, in principle it is not 'S-Plan' anymore. The deal breaks through and the dealer manager tells me I am making them loose time.
  • IRA Mazda – This is the dealer that should have the car that I was asking at on Wellesley Mazda. They do not have the car there when we get to the dealer – and even when it was listed on the Internet, it was sold a few days ago! There we discover that Wellesley Mazda was trying to sell me a car, on a contract, with a VIN number, that was sold a few days earlier. Talk about making me loose time! The IRA Mazda salesperson proceeds to tell me they are a multi-state dealer that can get it from another state. Good! I ask him if they will give me the S-Plan to which I get a very positive answer, as I will get two more times during the conversation, always pointing me to a nice decal that said 'You can Trust IRA Mazda'. After two hours of car appraisal, conversations, waiting, and the usual runaround, I get the listing for my car. A nice Grand Touring version of the 96 model with improved suspension package and all, for $25,500 MSRP ($500 higher than the car I was looking for in my two attempts, and about $3500 higher than the original Miata I started looking for). I ask one more time if he will get me the S-Plan and he points me again to his “Trust Me” decal. The final price was not based on the S-Plan. What was supposed to be a $2,500 S-Plan discount was a mere $500 'just for you' discount. The excuse was that S-Plan was not available for a Miata, even when I had asked repeatedly about it. We left, offended, of course.
After a while I have learned:
  • You must always be ready to walk out of the dealer. No car, just your money in your pocket.
  • Internet dealer inventories may not reflect actual inventory. They may be outdated by up to a week.
  • Dealers will lie all through the sales process. They will even print fake VIN numbers on the contract (as Wellesley Mazda did).
  • The S-Plan is a way for dealers to bring customers in, and to get rid of non-performing inventory: not to sell the customer the car he wants. Sounds simple enough, but it is always good to know the priorities of the two parties in any negotiation.
At this point I have several options (which is always good to keep in mind):
  • Keep repairing the Miata. -- This is the one that will most probably happen!
  • Buy a Miata at almost retail price.
  • Wait until winter and buy a Miata when no-one else wants a convertible.
  • Buy a different car: the RX-8 looks very nice.
  • Buy used – letting someone else loose the initial depreciation could be fun.

I work for a Mazda dealer down south. The first problem you have is that the S-Plan should be $300 over invoice, not $400 or $500. Then of course they are going to charge you Tax, Title, and DOC fees. Which is your responsibility on any purchase of a car, no matter what dealer you go to. Normally, a Mazda, or a car comparable to it, such as Honda, Toyota, you will usually find any where from $100 to $500 Documentation fees(DOC fees), which is basicly a easy way for a dealer to make a few extra bucks on your behalf.

But then at the end you say you might buy used.. Ok, well you do save yourself the “of the lot” depreciation, but every car depreciates, no matter what year it is or what kind of car it is. Right now in this market, you can buy a used 2006 Chevy Impala for $16,000, when it stickered brand new, less than a year ago, for 23k or 25k. That is a huge depreciation for just a year, right? Wow, you are going to save so much money!!!! But, hey, don’t forget. Dealers don’t sell used cars for nothing. They are making a huge profit on this car. Which means they probably bought the Impala for 10k at an auction, it was probably a rental too. So it already has 25,000 miles on it. And you just bought it for 16k. You are already 6k upsidedown driving off the lot. Not to mention if you have a interest rate larger than 4%, you are getting screwed…. royally
Jeremy () - 29 01 07 - 12:37

  
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